• Matt CastilloMatt Castillo, over 3 years ago

    Skeptical about this. Dreamweaver was released 20 years ago and here we are. Webflow gets a lot right as a WYSIWYG, but this just seemed like an to push people onto their platform.

    5 points
    • Marc EdwardsMarc Edwards, over 3 years ago

      Yep. The idea of visual coding gets recycled every few years in a different form. Dreamweaver is a perfect example — it was the easiest way to build tables (remember those?). But, it was pretty bad at everything else, and once you know how to hand code HTML and CSS, it’s unlikely you’d use Dreamweaver in the visual editor mode, or maybe at all.

      But, I do see a place for working visually. Squarespace is good for many things. MailChimp and Campaign Monitor’s visual editors are also great. Again, for certain tasks.

      The low end or mainstream works so well when things made more accessible, but it comes at the cost of the result and what’s possible. Both are good. Neither are going away any time soon.

      3 points
  • Arturo Rios Gutierrez, over 3 years ago

    Let´s be honest, devs will never ditch the command line because it makes them efficient as hell.

    1 point
  • Craig Garner, over 3 years ago

    Webflow is great but still doesn't allow for important CSS features such as nth-child, adjacent sibling and pseudo selectors. Some CSS concepts are tricky to translate into visual controls - this is why I can't see these tools completely replacing a good ol' text editor anytime soon.

    0 points
  • Lee Williams, over 3 years ago

    Well they're definitely not getting rid of HTML/CSS unless they're completely reinventing the browser and how the entirety of the web works. So they're just obscuring the code behind a WYSIWYG system.

    There's a ridiculous number of ways you can accomplish any given layout in HTML/CSS and determining which is the optimal combination is extremely subjective and often relies heavily on the context of everything else on the page. There's no way to write an rules based application to cover all the insane permutations to output good code. Not only that CSS/HTML specs and best practices change often and drastically in very short timespans.

    We'll be able to do it with computer learning models eventually, but as far as i know there's no practical large dataset that you can train a model with.

    This dream of visually site/app building is getting closer but we're still a loooooong way off.

    0 points