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Dude Calendar. It's a new calendar. For dudes. (dudecalendar.com)
almost 6 years ago from Craig Barber, Senior Product Designer ( UX/UI )
111 comments
Beth R, almost 6 years ago
Girls need reminders too.
Mike Wilson, almost 6 years ago Guessing this landing page is a troll.
But on a serious note, do you think we need to ban the marketing of gender specific products? Should I feel left out and upset every time I see Skinnygirl margaritas in the supermarket? I like Margaritas too!
Even though I struggle to see the value in this product idea, I'm gonna have to play devils advocate here. Are women being underserved by the thousands of existing calendar apps? Is there a gender gap for calendar users that I'm just tone-def to?
Account deleted almost 6 years ago If a product is completely unusable by other sex then sex-specific marketing is okay (like pads for example). A calendar? Do I need male genitalia to use it? Nope, so this kind of marketing should be banned.
UPDATE: just a wording issue I noticed. Maybe not banned, but frowned upon.
Account deleted almost 6 years ago lol
Account deleted almost 6 years ago Being sheltered and ignorant is always easier, right :)
Account deleted almost 6 years ago No. Overreacting to everything is apparently easier, right :)
Aubrey Johnson, almost 6 years ago
Banned? Just let people make and post this stuff and embarrass themselves. If you want to look like a complete ass, it's your freedom to do so - which is what Craig here is currently up to.
No one is going to learn a lesson with banning/deletion.
Account deleted almost 6 years ago Here is the problem - some of the men will think it's a great idea. Maybe even some women. Monkey does what monkey sees. Perpetuating stereotypes and sh*t.
Jernej Horvat, almost 6 years ago There are so many horrible things going on in the world at this precise moment and you get upset by a calendar called Dude and want to ban it?
Account deleted almost 6 years ago No, don't be an asshole and construct a story to make me look bad and inconsiderate. I have referred to sex-oriented marketing comment, a little above. In extent to my initial post, this calendar would be banned but that is not a focus.
And btw. perpetuating hazardous stereotypes is horrible. Many evil in the world comes from the same root and that is assigning certain roles to a gender. This calendar thingy is just a surface, the problem lays deep underneath.
Jernej Horvat, almost 6 years ago My intention wasn't to make you look bad but calling for a ban in this case is an exaggeration. I agree with you about the harm done by stereotyping, but the level of getting upset needs to fit the specific situation. The Dude Calendar has zero effect on people's lives.
Account deleted almost 6 years ago Again, you are manipulating my words and putting the focus on irrelevant stuff so we don't discuss a real problem here.
When a female address the problem some guys come in her way and attack her by twisting her words and pointing out irrelevant things. Like here, this calendar is stupid and at the same time perpetuates gender stereotypes. ie. men are stupid and forget things and this calendar will help them remember all those stupid/boring events like Mother's day, or birthdays. And we know how females behave when dudes forget ("objectively irrelevant") stuff, right? wink wink
The problem is deep under the surface and if you never looked into problems minorities and females have then you simply can't understand what I am talking about. I encourage you to try.
P.S. nemoj bit ta osoba, pls.
Jernej Horvat, almost 6 years ago Gender pay gap, low % of women in leadership positions, laws that prevent women from driving a car,...etc. these are just some of the real problems that have a profound effect on people's lives. A calendar made for dudes is an inappropriate marketing stunt that no one will talk about in a month from now. It's definitely not something that needs to be banned. That was my point and I honestly don't see how I'm twisting your words.
Account deleted almost 6 years ago And you still insist on twisting my words. Getting a little bit tired. If you keep repeating that I want this calendar banned it won't become a truth. I AM TALKING ABOUT SEX-ORIENTED MARKETING. What is wrong with you??
Jernej Horvat, almost 6 years ago Ok ok, I bundled the marketing and the product together since you can't just oppose the marketing approach and be fine with the product since the dude calendar in itself is not appropriate.
Aaron Wears Many Hats, almost 6 years ago
LOL go back and re-read the thread
Jake Lazaroff, almost 6 years ago FWIW, gendering a calendar app is part of the same system that creates the gender pay gap, low % of women in leadership positions, women leaving the tech industry at twice the rate of men, etc.
Account deleted almost 6 years ago 'Don't be an asshole' - Said by the person that is calling someone out for asking a question. The ironing is delicious.
Account deleted almost 6 years ago Hew was just twisting my words and creating spins to bash me. Classic male harassment on interwebs. Nothing new. Not only that, multiple "brave" internet warriors joined to bash me a bit more. You people seriously suck.
Account deleted almost 6 years ago You're the only one making a big deal out of a non-issue, insulting people and blaming people's choices on their sex. Maybe you're the one that sucks? Anyway, I can see where this will go, as a typical third wave feminist you'll pull me up on me saying this is a non issue, when you really think it is, even though there is a veritable plethora of evidence otherwise, then you'll go back to your coffee shop in Portland and bitch to your friends about how the sex-divide is what's wrong with the world, bathe in a pool of confirmation bias and the only thing that will change is that people will be be more hostile towards feminists because, due to your shitty attitude, you're doing more harm than good.. Nice work.
Account deleted almost 6 years ago I don't live in the USA, so a feminist prototype that you see in your head is insulting. Sheltered men or/and pure chauvinists don't see a problem here, you fit in both. You are not the one to say what is "a big deal" and what is not. And you can't stop people in pointing out problems. People hostile towards feminists? Try more like men hostile towards feminists. This is a classic scenario, really boring for me actually. Uneducated sheltered men come and explain what is an issue and what is not. You never invested time in thinking what is wrong in today's world compared to a female born in a backwards country and I don't expect you, or any other dude here will ever understand me or other females. I see many layers here, you see only a calendar - that's the problem.
P.S. I don't care what pompous chauvinists think about feminists.
Account deleted almost 6 years ago - That was an obvious metaphor. Do you really think that with a site with such a global audience I actually think you come from Portland?
- Do you mean stereotype, not prototype?
- I'm not a sheltered man, heck, for all you know I may identify as a woman. Now who is doing the insulting stereotyping?
- What gives you the right to say what is a big deal and not me? Your vagina? I thought feminism was about equality?
- No I can't stop people pointing out problems, however I can try to stop people insulting other people for voicing their opinions, like you.
- No I don't see just a calender, I see some dude either trolling or completely missing the mark. However when I see such a gross overreaction by someone completely informed by their own agenda, I find it hilarious and telling that you don't understand what you're talking about.
- I now await your post accusing me of mansplaining.
Have a great day :)
Account deleted almost 6 years ago I don't know why anyone from outside the US should now what drinking coffee in Portland means to you
I mean prototype, learn how to read.
You can't be a female. And yes, you are very very sheltered otherwise you wouldn't write this crap.
When it comes to female rights then, I as a female, get to say what is a big deal for me. You are a male and you can't decide what affects females. P.S. No feminism is not about equality
Somebody's opinion is hurting females. I step in and voice that problem. I am not the one who is insulting here. Classic context twisting from a male. And what is interesting a pack of men jumped right at me. Just that observation should be eye opening. But not everybody has the capacity to do that :)
Yes, this is just a calendar to you. Stupid calendar, but you can't see further than your nose.
If you are aware that you are mansplaining then you are just pathetic.
Have a nice day as well :)
Account deleted almost 6 years ago The webster dictionary disagrees with you:
feminism ˈfɛmɪnɪz(ə)m/
noun the advocacy of women's rights on the ground of the equality of the sexes.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/feminism
this proves you're delusional. Get outside and get off tumblr.
Account deleted almost 6 years ago That is a hippie new-age liberal view of feminism. You know nothing. Literally nothing.
Account deleted almost 6 years ago Apparently you don't. Have fun seething in misplaced anger! Bye :)
Joey Prijs, almost 6 years ago You're a very scarry person..
Account deleted almost 6 years ago Thanks. If a man is scared of me I am doing something good.
Jake Lazaroff, almost 6 years ago This whole rant is really inappropriate.
Mike Wilson, almost 6 years ago Are you gonna be the one to call Curves Gym and let them know they are now being forced to close all of their locations?
Also how big should the penalty be? Just a repeated fine for every instance (in the case of Curves gym probably a billion plus dollars) or jail time?
Account deleted almost 6 years ago I don't know what is Curves Gym. The World doesn't revolve around USA,
Steven Ng, almost 6 years ago
Curves is a women's only gym with over 4000 locations worldwide.
Edit - according to Wikipedia they are in over 85 countries
Account deleted almost 6 years ago They operate in 7 European countries, according to their popover. Their name is bad and should be frowned upon. I wish I live in parallel universe where this kind of shameful marketing is banned. Do you like that name?
As far as I know, curvy in North America (and maybe elsewhere) is a euphemism for a slightly larger woman.
On the surface, the name seems to be devised by people who wanted to promote the idea of having "curves" not being a bad or shameful thing.
Without context, the name might sound bad. I find that it's always worth pausing and trying to find out if the intent behind something is good or bad before making a judgment.
If women in general thought it was offensive, I highly doubt that the company would have 4000 locations worldwide. That's a lot of locations.
Also, because I'm not in the target market/audience for that gym, it really is not for me to judge. I don't really have any opinion of it, negative or positive.
Account deleted almost 6 years ago Women, in general, are brainwashed with patriarchy so it is not crazy that they actually go into places with that name. I have seen a woman saying misogynistic stuff without even realizing they talk against themselves. They were very passionate if I might add. People, in general, don't think too much, they just go with the flow. And flow says go go gender-assigned stuff.
I am honestly sorry to reply directly to another one of your comments Antonia, but you've made a lot so here we go again.
But I wish you lived in a parallel universe too. This kind of obsessive negativity against everyone in this thread is quite telling of your opinions on the subject here, and while you're obviously quite passionate about it, by being so militant you're actually going to make people frustrated with you and your opinion. You've targeted everyone here who has been fairly moderate in the issue.
Account deleted almost 6 years ago I don't feel welcome here because of female/male ratio, yet because of nature of my work I have to regularly check sites like DN. I was attacked by a hoard of males because I challenged and questioned patriarchy. Yes, I am fucking militant because apparently, you can't change wrong by being polite and soft. It doesn't work, I tried, trust me. Can you see some female names here besides that first comment? I don't care if people are frustrated by me, let them be. I am frustrated by this world and who gives a shit? Nobody.
Can you see some female names here besides that first comment?
It's hard to tell, there's a few people here who have ambiguous handles, and others that have names in languages which I'm not familiar with. It should be pointed out that in some languages, "Aaron" can be a feminine name. And someone with a masculine name might not consider themselves to be male. Or they might do, but not identify strictly as just male.
Personally I try to keep myself distanced from the whole gender issue. It's a nightmare of semantics which I honestly isn't helping anyone in any way by arguing about it. Clearly it gets yourself upset, it alienates other people looking in, it polarises parts of society which would have been otherwise moderate and with the last several decades worth of stress, where's it gotten us all to? Nowhere, that's where.
Don't get me wrong - obviously there is a clear social issue which needs to be addressed surrounding human interactions with each-other. There is absolutely a gender imbalance in the design/development community (Well. In the wider global marketplace there is. Here in Perth, West Oz, most of the graphic artists in my circles are women. By a very large margin. Go figure.). Statistically the biggest danger to a woman on this planet, other than heart disease, is men. There's a clear need for change to happen. But I don't think that being combative about it is going to work. Not in the way you're approaching it anyway. On face value, the approach taken in this thread is an example of it not working. Everyones angry, and here we are.
What's the solution then?
I'm not sure, to be perfectly honest.
But only the mad continue with an approach proven not to work.
I absolutely disagree however that you can't change wrongdoings with politeness. If that was the case, then what the fuck is the point of even trying anything then. There's no point in ushering the utopia of the future if we're all going to be assholes to get there.
Account deleted almost 6 years ago When I try to explain in soft, polite manner then I get dismissed and ridiculed very quickly. Men just don't respect you if you approach as soft and vulnerable human being. It baffles me.
You will never understand what an average female goes through in life so it is hard to communicate when our experiences are so vastly different. I am a minority on this site and in this community and it is hard. I am pissed by men who think i.e. colors are just colors and it is stupid to argue about colors. You see just color, I see lifetime full of terror because society wants to push me into gender boxes and I don't wanna do it. It is hard to start a healthy discussion when our experiences are so so so different. Where that leaves me? In an industry full of men who will bash me every time I challenge patriarchy which allowed them to occupy that sector so much. If you never investigated this subject (quick google search won't help it) in detail you will think this is overreacting. A situation every decent feminist goes through every day... I am tired of explaining how life works to men who don't have a clue. I really am.
Bit of perspective for you, because I think this might be important as it sounds like you feel like the whole worlds against you.
I grew up with two brothers in a small town where we were the minority. It might come as a shock to think of a caucasian male as a minority, but it does happen. When I was that age it didn't make any sense to me why I was different. I was small and skinny, and had glasses. One of my brothers had (technically, has) alopecia. We were very different to the majority indigenous group in town and got severely bullied. We wore bruises daily.
Throughout life, most of my friends have been female. I ended up working closely with the LGBT groups through my uni years, helping organise rallies, being very heavily involved in the vagina monologues for many years, being there for friends when they needed it and being there again when they left and the rest of us had to pick up the pieces. I was very exposed to the awful shit my friends went through.
After that, I worked in intensive care for several years. I got to deal with the absolute shittiest things you could imagine. Really, truly horrible things. Things that put your entire mortality into perspective which stay with you for years and years after you've scrubbed the blood and shit off your hands and still keeps you up at night.
I like to think I have a fairly objective perspective of things. I've dealt with humans coming into the world, and humans leaving it. I've seen first hand what marginalisation is like, I know what bullying is like. I know what the end-game of it is. And with the things I've gone through (and not at all wanting to diminish your experiences), I have made a real effort to stay away from being too pessimistic and falling into existential depression.
I know that I've had a fairly convenient set of genetic advantages given to me with my cultural and socioeconomic position, and to a lot of people hearing someone like me these days voicing an opinion is a bit moot - disregarded as a fair opinion due to being cisgender and white - but it's always advantageous to remember that everyone is fighting their own battles, and the whole world is actually against everybody.
There's a lot of lucky people out there who have never faced adversity.... But there are a lot of people out there who do understand, and are doing their bit to help. Attacking them won't help.
That's why it's good to approach it with politeness. :)
Account deleted almost 6 years ago Well, sounds like you had (and have) colorful life. I guess you can understand this stuff better than 99% guys here. You were the only one who actually tried to communicate and not play pointless word ping-pong.
Recently I moved to another country and I have learned some valuable stuff. I met people with crappy childhood and not so glamorous life and they can really relate to all stuff I say... Buuuut to some point they shut down because even their shitty experiences are so different than mine, and I am born in a poor, pathetic, backward country filled with aggression, war, nationalism, which crushes minorities (female, lesbian, vegan, coder, geek here). Once a guy told me something like: did you like purposely choose these traits just to be on margins of society. It supposed to be a joke but I didn't laugh. So every aspect of my life is a target to the majority of people around the globe. I am near 30 and I can't start explaining how exhausted I am. I have zero tolerance for bullshit and maybe 5 years ago I would spend days carefully crafting my words but these days are gone, I am drained.
So far I encountered very very few people with a capacity to understand female issues (especially ones accompanied with bad geolocation). My experiences are that you have to smash your hand against the table and then people might hear you out.
P.S. DN should revise their UX for commenting. This is so narrow it is getting ridiculous.
To be fair, I would have laughed if someone had made that comment to me.
Because really that's all you can do is laugh. People won't change, the world probably won't either. And by laughing you prove to the haters that they can't get you down. You've moved countries, you've overcome social issues that (from the sounds of it) were extremely difficult for most of your peers. You've built yourself from the ground up, and that's got to count for a lot.
I mean, shit, we all still go home and cry in the corner to ourselves at times. Lifes shit and then you die (and there is no dignity in it either). But don't let your haters see that, don't give them the satisfaction.
Account deleted almost 6 years ago Might just follow your advice! Thanks!
No problem :)
Also yeah no shit - I have to keep opening the chrome inspector and manually forcing the column width haha!
Account deleted almost 6 years ago I just read it from the mail notification LOL. We have found a bug! DN! We need a fix! Somebody?
Jernej Horvat, almost 6 years ago I don't think anyone is frustrated with your comments...after all this is a comments section where people discuss...but I don't see anyone, that had a discussion directly with you, opposing the fact that sexism is a problem in society.
Perhaps you should look at the disposable razor market. There isn't that much of a fundamental difference between razors used on mens faces and womens' legs, yet you have products segmented and marketed specifically for each sex.
Account deleted almost 6 years ago And female razors cost more. That is called Pink tax nowadays. Stupid name if you ask me, but point is that sex-oriented marketing is cancer.
I'm neither disagreeing or agreeing with you. I am simply pointing out that there are products like pads that are specifically marketed at each sex. The only reason that I can think of why this practice continues is that it works. Ultimately, I think that says more about people in general than it does about the companies that engage in this type of marketing.
Jake Lazaroff, almost 6 years ago Are men underserved by the thousands of existing calendar apps? I don't think you need to play devil's advocate when there are many people here arguing in earnest that this isn't problematic.
Ken Em, almost 6 years ago what
Raffaello Sanzio, almost 6 years ago
My gut reaction was to criticize the product or make a sarcastic comment. After some thought I realized that, joke or not, this is actually a pretty clever project.
This guy is following the correct steps to launch a product: You pick a niche, tell them about product tailored to their needs/wants, and, if there's enough interest, you go ahead and build it.
200 people have signed up so far. Whether out of real interest, curiosity or controversy, this guy has their email addresses.
There's nothing wrong with this product. Its name may trigger some people these days, but it's not illegal or wrong. The brand of organic spinach I buy is "Organic Girl", and, as a man, I couldn't care less.
If the description of the product doesn't fit you, then just move on.
Well done, dude. Again, whether this is a joke or not, you've got here a very interesting social and product experiment. Would love to read a Case Study about this.
Jake Lazaroff, almost 6 years ago I'd just like to point out that there are quite a few women in the comments above who have expressed negative reactions. We shouldn't just brush them off. This product isn't illegal, but it is making people feel unwelcome, and that's not something we should encourage no matter how many people have signed up for it.
Art Vandelay, almost 6 years ago
As Raffaello mentioned above, the Spinach he buys is called "Organic Girl" and isn't offensive for him.
it is making people feel unwelcome
It's unwise for a person to feel unwelcome by a product that is not tailored to them.
elif hawkins, almost 6 years ago It is not the name really that is the issue here. It is the feeling that it creates. Organic Girl is a product name but doesn't dictate who should eat it explicitly. One can read it as I'm eating a girl (with some stretch of imagination) or it is a brand geared towards females. Whereas dude calendar screams its intention of not being inclusive. I'm a female and have friends referring me as dude. The name is not the issue.
Yes, it is clever of the guy that it is getting so many people to talk and click. It is however sad that this is the way he has chosen to achieve his goal.
dude calendar screams its intention of not being inclusive
Products don't have to be all-inclusive. You pick a niche, and market heavily towards them, because they're the ones who are going to buy and sustain your product. Almost every private company does that.
Stefan Trkulja, almost 6 years ago
Would you be OK with a "white people calendar"? Honestly curious, don't want to start anything.
Would you be OK with a "white people calendar"?
Absolutely!
I'm not white and yet, I don't see what the problem with that product would be in a free country with a free market.
OK, got you.
Timothy Turner, almost 6 years ago I mean, we have a Jewish (Hewbrew) calendar and Asian (Lunar) calendars... ;-)
Edit: While these aren't products, we do have Playboy calendars which are marketed heavily towards heterosexual men. We have crossword and word-a-day calendars which are marketed towards people who want to increase their vocabulary and English skills.
True, but that's beside the point and I think you realize it. :)
Craig Barber, almost 6 years ago
Raff, got a moment? I made a survey - would love your input:
https://craigbarber.typeform.com/to/JCTJNZ
Thanks in advance! I've had over 1300 people sign up : )
Craig
Thank you Raffaello. I've launched countless projects - most of them fail miserably. To have people like the project feels great. At the time of writing I'm happy to say I've had over 700 people sign up!
Adam Hayman, almost 6 years ago These comments are cracking me up. It's a f***ing calendar, people.
Denis Rojcyk, almost 6 years ago
Yeah :D This is gold.
Stuart McCoy, almost 6 years ago
This app seems like an punchline straight out of HBO's "Silicon Valley".
W B, almost 6 years ago
Delete this
Please dont : )
Bevan Stephens, almost 6 years ago
Will the punchline be delivered by email?
Tristam Goch, almost 6 years ago
Honestly don't know what to make of this or the criticism of it.
Like, what are we doing? Yeah, the idea of a calendar for men is dumb. Flower scented soap for women and grenade scented shower gel for men is dumb. But let's not pretend there isn't a whole world of neutral products in between (because it's just a linear scale m i rite?).
Whatever, this calendar says it's for dudes. We'll laugh and say "oh you" or we'll get mad and say "burn down the patriarchy", but everyone it's a ****ing calendar. It's a ****ing bath bomb. It's a ****ing razor (writing this from the bathroom ¬_¬).
We could be out there actually burning down the patriarchy...
Tristam, got a moment? I made a survey - would love your input:
https://craigbarber.typeform.com/to/JCTJNZ
Thanks in advance! I've had over 1300 people sign up : )
Craig
Hey guys, Craig Barber here. The dude that is making Dude Calendar.
Thank you all for the comments! I read them all.
The 'Dude' part is two fold. Yes, it is to let people know the product is aimed at males.
The reason being, some of us men are a bit crap at remembering dates.
So I figured guys would understand and see this truth in the marketing. And they have. As of writing the site has gathered 700+ signups in just 24 hours.
It's also meant to sum up the tone of the thing.
It's meant to be blokey, lad-like and a bit of fun!
Lastly the grand plan is to have an on-boarding feature that will ask users what typically blokey stuff they want to know about. So the calendar will populate itself with events and reminders aimed at - dudes!
To all the folks on the whole male / female thing... read the above.
Secondly, I looked around my bathroom this morning and I saw about 10 products from Nivea and P&G. Every one of the labels had the word 'men' or 'mens' on it. Apparently my shampoo is only for men, so's my deodorant! ; )
Lastly, to you the community and the owners of Designer News. Congratulations! You may not know it yet but you are the new Product Hunt.
Sadly Product Hunt is so bloated and feature heavy that it no longer let's makers get their new projects in front of people.
The front page is actually heavily moderated by the admins. Product Hunt bury most posts now. There's only a select few that get 'featured' on the front page.
So please, keep up the good work guys! Keep the site simple and democratic - it allows us to get valuable feedback and traffic to our new creations.
Craig
Thomas Michael Semmler, almost 6 years ago
lad-like; So I figured guys would understand and see this truth in the marketing; some of us men are a bit crap at remembering dates; Lastly the grand plan is to have an on-boarding feature that will ask users what typically blokey stuff they want to know about. So the calendar will populate itself with events and reminders aimed at - dudes!
So your app determines what I wanna know about? What If I have been a female but am now male? What if I am bisexual or gay? What if I work as a dragqueen? What if I am asexual?
What are those events that only blokey, lad-like doods like?
How could any of those things be even remotely related to my genitalia? Unless you will send me reminders to go to a urologist, you will probably not find anything that is of interest to me.
Unless you are gonna tell me, when a new Episode of Steven Universe comes out, or when Bianca del Rio has a show near me. So, maybe... you are not targeting doods, but you are rather targeting straight white males, that subscribe to the stereotypical act of their gender role; that need to do things that other males have determined to be confirmative of their gender.
And what do you exactly mean by:
Sadly Product Hunt is so bloated and feature heavy that it no longer let's makers get their new projects in front of people. The front page is actually heavily moderated by the admins. Product Hunt bury most posts now. There's only a select few that get 'featured' on the front page.
By feature heavy, do you mean that it requires your product to be feature-heavy? Well, how sad is it, that you cannot get on product hunt, when your only selling point is marketing. They heavily admin the page to noise like this doesn't go there. There is enough nonsense on there even with their heavy administration.
Designernews is not the new product hunt. There is no new product hunt. If there was, it would probably be dribbble, because its basically full of self-advertising and nothing more.
Jake Lazaroff, almost 6 years ago The reason being, some of us men are a bit crap at remembering dates.
Is there any statistical correlation whatsoever between a Y chromosome and the inability to remember dates?
Lastly the grand plan is to have an on-boarding feature that will ask users what typically blokey stuff they want to know about.
What stuff is that? Sports? A product screenshot mentions boxing; I'm a dude and I have zero interest. Does that make me less of a "typical bloke"? (The sibling comment by Thomas Michael Semmler made a much better version of this point).
Secondly, I looked around my bathroom this morning and I saw about 10 products from Nivea and P&G. Every one of the labels had the word 'men' or 'mens' on it. Apparently my shampoo is only for men, so's my deodorant! ; )
Yes, that's a problem as well. There's been a lot written about why needlessly gendering products is bad. Look up fragile masculinity with regard to product marketing and the pink tax.
Yes, it is to let people know the product is aimed at males.
I realize not all products need to be made for everyone. But it seems like this product is perpetuating harmful stereotypes as an attempt to find a market. That's not a good thing.
Just wanted to say I'm not offended by this at all.
It just sounds like a terrible product.
Manny Perez, almost 6 years ago typically blokey stuff
This is exactly where it moves from annoying to harmful. If the "typical blokey stuff" is subjects like beer, sports, girls in bikinis, then this is just perpetuating harmful stereotypes.
Jake Lazaroff, almost 6 years ago "What are you talking about, this industry is totally inclusive!"
— [paraphrased from many, many DN and HN comments]
Joel Califa, almost 6 years ago
Is this a joke?
No, I'm throwing it out there to gauge response. Based on the response I'll be making it : )
Make it :)
Denis, got a moment? I made a survey - would love your input:
https://craigbarber.typeform.com/to/JCTJNZ
Thanks in advance! I've had over 1300 people sign up : )
Craig
Gotcha!
Lucas Guarneri, almost 6 years ago
Where's that Mike Monteiro article about Bro Culture?
What an absolute waste of time
Hmmm... I don't think so. I thought of the idea. I made it and I put it out there. It's not for everyone but I'm still proud of it as a piece of work and an idea.
Jason Williams, almost 6 years ago
A few more details would be nice before asking for name and email :)
There's a fair bit of copy on the site, also the Typeform hopefully lets you know more.
Elliott Regan, almost 6 years ago
This isn't really design-related, is it? It is just a marketing form driven (and designed) by Typeform.
The landing page is a Wordpress site custom made by me. A designer, who designed it : )
Mindy Ling, almost 6 years ago uhh what.
Fuck me. Everyone needs to drop the gender hangups and stop being outraged just because you feel like being outraged over fucking nonsense.
Adam Szakal, almost 6 years ago
Fuck this and his cynical ways of trying to create some buzz.
Camri Hinkie, almost 6 years ago
So can I use this or is it one of those 'No girls allowed' things all over again?
Of course girls can use it! You'll just get called dude lots and get served up a whole bunch of dates and events for guys : )
Jake Lazaroff, almost 6 years ago What are "events for guys"? The website lists boxing and tennis. Is Camri not allowed to like them because she's a woman?
Am I not a guy because I don't care about them?
Why are you gendering interest in sports?
Tim Kjær Lange, almost 6 years ago
This made me think about the difference between two different approaches to product design:
Personas: different people need different products tailored to their personality.
Jobs to be done: different people are doing similar things, let’s design for the things that they’re doing and not for their gender or if they like to hike or if they are offended by posts on Designer News.
I think the persona approach is more applicable to marketing products than it is to designing products.
Thanks Tim, yes good points about the personas thing. I guess it currently gets used in both realms.
I'm doing some further research into it, if you have a moment please fill this out:
https://craigbarber.typeform.com/to/JCTJNZ
Thanks in advance,
Craig
does the dude calendar also remind you to always use your societal gender specific lingo? Because you know, when you don't describe yourself as a Dood, you are not a male. Does your genitalia not determine the way you talk? Then THIS IS NOT FOR YOU.
Dan Taplin, almost 6 years ago I can't believe this is a thing. WHY does it have to be targeted at males only? There's gotta be a legit reason behind it? How is being forgetful a male only thing? There's no justifying the use of Nivea and P&G because their gendered products are stupid too unless there's a fundamental difference between genders to warrant their needs! This is more Broculture, Brotech, Brosign. This is a calendar. It's a sexist calendar with push notifications.
Hey guys! Wow what a response. Loving all the feedback from you. Good and bad.
For the folks that have a moment, I'm doing some further research on this idea.
Please click the link below, it takes you to a survey on Typeform. It's completely anonymous:
https://craigbarber.typeform.com/to/JCTJNZ
Thanks in advance! I've had over 1300 people sign up : )
Craig
Joe Crupi, almost 6 years ago I think the idea has real potential and might even take off.
I kinda feel a lot of people have missed the point. It's not a gender thing at all... or is it?!
All I see is a calendar/reminder service that can potentially easily aggregate my interests and let me know in advance when they are going to happen.
Shit that - as a dude - I might wanna be reminded about: - when my team's game is about to start - friends and family birthdays - my next Craft Beer MeetUp event - upcoming UX or design conferences - when my next ball game is scheduled - etc etc
Then consider this...
Shit that - as a chick* - I might wanna be reminded about: - when my team's game is about to start - friends and family birthdays - my next Craft Beer MeetUp event - upcoming UX or design conferences - when my next ball game is scheduled - etc etc
Get it?!
If the integration can be accomplished with 3rd party services, this could be great.
- = deliberate use of the word chick there (c;
Awesome! Love the input and great ideas Joe. Thanks for taking a moment to respond.
The site has gotten an incredible response. As of writing this... 1300+ people have joined my launch list.
FYI I'm doing some further research, if you do have moment please check out my survey for Dude Calendar here:
https://craigbarber.typeform.com/to/JCTJNZ
Thanks in advance,
Craig
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