Netflix’s new design series spreads the wrong idea about design (qz.com)
6 years ago from John Park, Creative Director at Arts and Sciences Marketing www.artsandsci.com
6 years ago from John Park, Creative Director at Arts and Sciences Marketing www.artsandsci.com
Jesus... the show is really well done and the people are incredibly talented and inspiring. Can we not just chill out and enjoy shit anymore?
Gotta get those clicks tho
agreed.
Umm, can't we constructively critique anything anymore without some whiny person stepping in? This wasn't just some hit piece. They presented an argument then proceeded to legitimize the argument with examples and facts. If you're anemic to criticism you're in the wrong business. The greatest problem facing design today isn't far too many frameworks, design libraries, and UI kits, it's that designers aren't taught how to properly critique anything. I don't know if design schools aren't teaching this properly anymore or if far too many people get into graphic design without having gone to school for it first.
Its clickbait, stu. Calm down.
Nah—criticism itself isn't immune to criticism.
quick, where's Eli
How dare you critique my critique of the critique!
I can only assume that "Chef's Table" make chefs insane, the same way hospital dramas make medical professionals insane. The inherent boredom of any profession and subsequent tedium of problem solving must give way to dramatic formula.
Whenever I watch these types of shows, I feel like I'm just watching a three act structure about broken people who just happen to be making things other people romanticize. The craft on display is not cooking or design, but rather, as usual, filmmaking.
Agreed fully. If they were accurately made, it would be 30 minutes of someone eating a bowl of cereal in the morning, following by 8 hours of crippling self-doubt.
That got a snort. Thank you.
... I imagined you snorting out your cereal.
Words to live by
that would be something i wanna see
Literally just read this while eating my bowl of cereal before starting work.
All solid points being made here.
But I hope you can find some inspiration in Es Devlin, Tinker Hatfield, or any of the other undeniably talented designers they featured.
To each their own.
Oh, don't get me wrong, I like watching them, but I don't find it instructive or really representative of what it's really like to be a designer, nor expect it to be. It's really just life porn.
Whatever dude. I like it. The car design one was pretty cool.
I don't really buy anything this article is selling. From the loose understanding of the word Abstract (real design problems are commonly found through abstraction of a specific situation to a broader set of issues – this is a real technique). A series with the title Abstract shouldn't be about lower-level process. That's an absurd assertion.
Sure they could have toned down the idolization of the designers, focused more on the process (the Paula Scher meeting insight was terrific) and all sorts of others ideas. But that's subjectively splitting hairs. For an inaugural season it was definitely well met.
I've only watched the first episode so far but was very impressed. Some of my friends who know nothing about design or creative work also liked it.
The first episode also hit a nice balance between: "oh look I'm so happy and creative" and the challenges that the designer faced in his career and how he met those challenges.
Am I crazy to think they're using the alternate definition of Abstract for this?
noun ˈabˌstrakt/ a summary of the contents of a book, article, or formal speech. "an abstract of his inaugural address" synonyms: summary, synopsis, précis, résumé, outline, abridgment, digest, summation; wrap-up "an abstract of her speech"
Great article. I actually cringed in the first episode and then stopped watching it.
Oh no not the cringe!
I felt that that was more the eccentric nature of Christoph Niemann. Not the show.
Maybe design needs to be reframed into two categories like the way the sciences have "Hard Science" and "Soft Science".The Hard Sciences are the ones that are more math based and measurable, and then you got the 'softer" sciences like Psychology and Sociology which are more theoretical and less measured. I think that designers that stick to the dictum that design it's just about solving problems are taking that from Industrial Design. Industrial Design for me is "Hard Design". There are aesthetics, but mostly this is about making an object people can use. Graphic Design and Illustration is "Soft Design". The solutions are mostly aesthetic. Yes there are questions about Typography and readability, but you have to be creative about it. Designing an album cover is an art form. It's commercial art, but dammit that's art. Don't know if this makes any sense.
I thought the show was great.
Definitely saw this separation as well. Also what really interested me was the scale of each project the illustrator was him in a room and the car designer had a whole corporation to deal with. Really eye opening how those environments form the product final. Really eye opening show.
I agree with the gist of your comment. But there is certainly be some graphic design and illustration that focuses primarily on something people use. (e.g. instruction manuals, wayfinding, directories, medical and technical illustration, etc.) But yeah, I think on the whole industrial design is a bit 'harder'.
I really enjoy watching this documentary series. It makes your think of design as a whole by how it's utilized to solve problems with different mediums. The thought, process, and story the designers have tell is worthwhile.
To me the show is not about design as a trade per-say. but about the designers themselves. It tells their story, not the story of all footwear designers for example (with a bit of the requirements of the job peppered in).
Admittedly I've only watched a few of the episodes, but I'm enjoying hearing the stories of these designers told in a beautiful way and seeing their work with a taste of the process behind that work.
I found the series incredibly inspiring and makes design very approachable and informative for non-design viewers. Yes, there are aspects about design as a trade that weren't documented and glazed over but I seriously doubt anyone who isn't "obsessed" with all the day-to-day work would stick around through all the episodes if that were the case. I never once got the impression that this chalked design up to just art or even remotely compared it to something as subjective as art. Why can't we all just enjoy the great storytelling, film work, and the fact that we live in a time where design just got a documentary made about it? This article, although well-written, just screams insecurity.
What a pointless article, really. Let's get the author a kool aid and let enjoy some more "accurate" series about nowadays designers. Oh, sorry, there's none. Clickbait.
Read the article, kinda spoils some of the episodes a tad bit, but this...Feels more like an opinion, rather than criticism or a review...
Give me Abstract any day over AMC's The Pitch. That show made want to put my eyes out.
My two cents. There are and will be always two kind of designers: one that will make art and say it is design (wrong profession if you ask me) and one that will make design and it is. Design is not making things pretty or meaningful. Design makes things useable or useful.
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