3&7 Website(3and7.com)

over 2 years ago from Amanda Saker, Designer

  • Dan GDan G, over 2 years ago

    in what way is it 'predictable" ?

    7 points
    • Stuart KnezevichStuart Knezevich, over 2 years ago

      I too would like an insight? What's predictable or stereotypical about it? Seems like a baseless comment to me.

      5 points
      • Adam Fisher-CoxAdam Fisher-Cox, over 2 years ago

        This "Brutalist" web design thing is extremely on-trend (though on the downswing). It's a very typical example of this look.

        2 points
      • Thomas Michael SemmlerThomas Michael Semmler, over 2 years ago

        I'm wouldn't try to defend the validity of my comment, but I think baseless is the wrong word. I think "unneeded", "irrelevant" or something of the sorts is a more accurate description for this type of comment.

        And in that regard, my comment is not less or more irrelevant than "nice colors" or "cool animations", "I like it". But somehow it is accepted for people to express their fondness, not their aversion to something. What this aversion or fondness for that matter is based on, because it is not baseless as it is based on something, does not play a role in that judgement.

        0 points
        • Dan GDan G, over 2 years ago

          this is the worst comment i've read on DN

          2 points
          • Mattan IngramMattan Ingram, over 2 years ago

            It really isn't, and if you think so you haven't read much of the awful shit people say on here.

            There is nothing wrong with a simple comment that you don't like something. Is it constructive criticism? No. Does every critique need to be? No.

            It is so hard to get honest feedback on design work these days. What's so bad about someone honestly saying "Eh this isn't really for me"?

            They specifically said "personally" and this is a style that many people do love and it follows that style fairly consistently.

            What is the issue?

            0 points
            • Dan GDan G, over 2 years ago

              i was being facetious, but in general my issue was the amount of self importance and pretentious language. it's a waste of everyones time.

              It was also a dumb criticism in the first place. by all means have an issue with something but when it's patently wrong, you've fucked up. there's nothing 'expected' about the design, if anything there's a bunch of really dumb shit happening with zero affordance. literally the opposite of what he said.

              2 points
              • Mattan IngramMattan Ingram, over 2 years ago

                This just strikes me as you not understanding what he meant, which is partially his fault for not being clear but not deserving of this level of drama.

                For the "brutalist" aesthetic used on the site there ARE expected aesthetic things and this site meets many of them. Expectations are not just functional ones.

                He said nothing about affordances?

                0 points
                • Thomas Michael SemmlerThomas Michael Semmler, over 2 years ago

                  Further down I was accused of using too much language. Though I really tried to make it understandable what I am trying to say. Apparently I entirely failed at that. It’s remarkably hard to talk differentiated about such a topic in a foreign language lol.

                  It seems like you did however get was I was trying to say! Thanks :P

                  0 points
    • Thomas Michael SemmlerThomas Michael Semmler, over 2 years ago

      Someone here said:

      This "Brutalist" web design thing is extremely on-trend (though on the downswing). It's a very typical example of this look.

      And that is basically what I am saying too.


      To rephrase it a bit more cohesively in my own words:

      I chose the word predictable, because the expectations I build from engaging with it for a few seconds were all fulfilled. It is not trying to be something else. It is copying a certain trend. It is trying to fit that trend. It's not trying to choose the best for the product or the experience. It is cookie cutter, like most web design nowadays unfortunately has become. Not all of course, but most. If you design experiences, chances are very high your observational techniques and habits are higher, because that is pat of this craft. And thus you see patterns quickly and predictably.

      User-Experiences like these can also be an indicator of one of the processes that I personally believe lead to this community's undead status, something that you yourself have pointed out.

      This is predictable to me, because It looks like every other Experience that tries desperately to juxtapose itself to other current trends, ironically merging itself into the problem and further perpetuating what it tries to criticise. In a way this trend is the equivalent of Viennese Actionism. It tries desperately to free itself from paradigms and expectations and tries to violently establish new dimensions for the craft. With the big difference that this is not art, it is still design and does not enjoy the same privileges that art does.

      0 points
      • Dan GDan G, over 2 years ago

        this is going to be rude but you are using 100 words where 10 will do.

        0 points
      • Rose BrownRose Brown, over 2 years ago

        I've never seen a menu hover like that (film reel on homepage), I've also never seen a pre-loader like that either (seems to be randomly generated)

        If anything I'd call this 'punk' as opposed to 'brutalism', it's certainly very refreshing compared to the heavy UX / figma / squarespace looking product pages that frequent this site.

        I guess anything different always produces alarm and pushback.

        1 point
        • Thomas Michael SemmlerThomas Michael Semmler, over 2 years ago

          I guess anything different always produces alarm and pushback.

          It does, but I am arguing that this is precisely not that, though it tries very hard to follow that category.

          0 points