• Andrei GANCI, over 2 years ago

    Hi Marc, thanks for the candid feedback.

    I agree that there are sensible improvements we can make in the guides feature. We are confident though, that even with some of the use-cases you mentioned not being covered, it still adds value to designers workflows as is. We don't want to keep this functionality unreleased for an extra 2-3 months while still working on those kinks when designers can derive sensible value from the feature today!

    With regards to copy pasting guides between artboards/documents and clear guides - that functionality does exist and is implemented (via the View>Guides Menu).

    We are actively working on addressing some of your feedback soon, namely guide creation when zoomed in and showing the guide position (without moving it).

    I'm curious what are your use-cases for guides being positioned at fractional values (10.5px) - what are the scenarios where those would be helpful for you?

    And the last thought ... I actually believe that us not shying away to do things differently (guides without rulers, in this example) and then having this sort of constructive conversations will result in better tools for designers in the long term.

    Andrei Ganci (Product Manager - Adobe XD)

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    • Marc EdwardsMarc Edwards, over 2 years ago

      Thanks for the reply, Andrei.

      We don't want to keep this functionality unreleased for an extra 2-3 months while still working on those kinks when designers can derive sensible value from the feature today!

      I understand. But, at the same time I feel like XD’s releases tend to always include features that don’t cover the required uses cases. It makes me question if those use cases were even known or understood. Symbols were released without support for resizing instances. That has been fixed with components, but I think it should have been clear from the outset that instance resizing was essential, even as part of an initial release of the feature. Customer feedback shouldn’t be required to know that.

      From the point of view of a customer, these releases build excitement with the announcement, only to be let down when I realise I can’t actually use the feature as is.

      With regards to copy pasting guides between artboards/documents and clear guides - that functionality does exist and is implemented (via the View>Guides Menu).

      I was seeing disabled menu items, but now realise that the artboard needs to be selected for those items to work. My apologies.

      We are actively working on addressing some of your feedback soon, namely guide creation when zoomed in and showing the guide position (without moving it).

      Great, thanks.

      I'm curious what are your use-cases for guides being positioned at fractional values (10.5px) - what are the scenarios where those would be helpful for you?

      I think there’s many use cases. If you’re designing an iPhone app, using an iPhone X as the base size, the device width is 375pt. The center of that is 187.5pt. XD does have automatic center snapping, but because it’s rounded, that actually snaps to 188pt on the artboard. So, anything with an uneven width or height that requires center snapping needs fractional guide placement.

      I understand why it may be desirable for the center snapping to round up, but without being able to place fractional guides and turn off center snapping, objects can not be correctly centered.

      On a 29×29pt icon (spotlight and settings for iOS), a 0.5pt centering error is huge.

      I actually believe that us not shying away to do things differently (guides without rulers, in this example) and then having this sort of constructive conversations will result in better tools for designers in the long term.

      I agree. I don‘t think XD’s guides landed on the mark though.

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